Are you an Angry Vegan-Or a Thoughtful Vegan? (for vegetarians too!)

I think everyone(vegan & vegetarian) should ready this article and take in what it has to say. I have been running into some nasty ass angry vegans lately and I truly believe their attitudes and self righteous comments are a detriment to our cause- I admit that sometimes I am angry and frustrated with my fellow humans because of their blindness and the select few with their inability to care- but in general I strive to be a thoughtful Vegan- we cannot condemn, hate, bash and ridicule others who are not like minded like us- how will we ever change minds with hatred? How can we influence people with anger?

Please check out this article below by Andrew Kirschner and tell me what you think- Are you and angry vegan- or a thoughtful one?

Who is the angry vegan?

The angry vegan is always furious and shocked
that people are not making the same decisions
as the angry vegan.

The angry vegan has forgotten
that the angry vegan used to make
many of the same decisions.

The angry vegan has no patience
or understanding of cultural norms
or the time it takes people to transition
to a more thoughtful lifestyle.

The angry vegan makes statements like
“Nobody listens.”
“Nobody cares.”
“Nobody ever changes.”
“People suck.”

The angry vegan has unrealistic expectations
and shows constant disappointment and contempt
when those expectations are not met.
The angry vegan is more focused on
cursing, name-calling, and wishing ill upon people
than listening, inspiring, supporting, and resolving.

The angry vegan dismisses anyone who disagrees
and only talks to the choir.
The angry vegan makes statements such as
“I wish all meat-eaters would die”
even if most of them have never learned the truth
about animal agriculture
or been given the opportunity to process it and change.

The angry vegan doesn’t know how
to channel energy to impact reforms
so the angry vegan spends countless hours
venting disgust in public forums.
The angry vegan fails to understand
the difference between activism that alienates
and strategic advocacy that motivates.

The angry vegan is combative and sad
and looks to engage in wild rants
where there are no winners.

The angry vegan rarely ever celebrates small victories for animals
or congratulates people for making incremental progress.
For the angry vegan, it is an all or nothing proposition
often presented in all capital letters:

The angry vegan scoffs at heroes for the cause
like Ellen Degeneres, Pink, and Paul McCartney,
and rather than commending them for using their fame and money
to promote kindness to animals to their millions of fans
and cheer them on to do more
seeks to find fault with their imperfections
and demonizes them as traitors and impostures.

The angry vegan agitates prospective vegans
and fuels them to make comments such as
“I’m going to eat more meat because of you.”

Conversely, the thoughtful vegan does not get goaded
because the thoughtful vegan understands
the importance of rising above the fray
when the opposition’s sole purpose is argument.

The angry vegan becomes irate and critical
when other vegans do not attend a protest
or donate to a cause
whereas the thoughtful vegan
expresses gratitude to everyone
who attends an event or makes a donation.

The thoughtful vegan knows when to engage
when to disengage
when to smile
when to ignore an inflammatory comment
when to move on
and when to offer praise.

The angry vegan is dismissive.
The thoughtful vegan is considerate.
The angry vegan demands.
The thoughtful vegan listens and helps.
The angry vegan has enemies.
The thoughtful vegan has followers.
The angry vegan tells people to love while hating.
The thoughtful vegan shows compassion to breed compassion.

The angry vegan posts comments such as
“Go vegan or go fu*k yourself.”
“Go vegan or kill yourself.”
“Wishing all humans death in the New Year.”
“Kids killed at an elementary school means fewer people eating animals.”
The angry vegan feels satisfied and justified
making these comments
but does not consider
how the public receives these messages.

The thoughtful vegan has no less
anger, frustration, or determination
but the thoughtful vegan understands
the importance of channeling it in a positive way
that appeals to the masses
to achieve measurable performance outcomes
to benefit animals, people’s health, and the environment.

The angry vegan finds fault with
most everything the thoughtful vegan does
because it’s never enough
and pits one vegan against another
rather than working together for a common cause.

The angry vegan will read this commentary
and get angry and defensive.
The angry vegan will lash out with comments
that dismiss diplomacy, legislation, and reason
and insist on immediate change
without a prescription to make it happen.

The angry vegan will make comments such as
“You’re damn right I’m angry”
without realizing that the angry vegan can be angry
while advocating thoughtfully.
The angry vegan will demand a vegan world now
and continue being an angry vegan
until one day the angry vegan becomes
the thoughtful vegan.

What type of vegan are you?
If you are not a vegan, which one of these vegans might influence you more?

 Original Written By: Andrew Kirschner can be found here:

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I am a peaceful new vegetarian ( soon to be, I hope, a vegan). I do not condemn anyone for their beliefs.  I would be a hypocrite to judge people for their eating habits or beliefs.  

Wow right up until yesterday I have been a thoughtful vegan, but yesterday it became too much... I was so mad at everyone I just started lashing out on people!
This article made me rethink and I think I can go back to being the thoughful vegan that people actually (sometimes) listens to :) Since around 5 people in my closest circle has become """"at least""" vegetarians without me even trying, just by asking me questions and learning, I think it's proven it's better to be a thoughtful vegan :) 

angry vegans make me bored.

Oh good question i try to be a caring vegan ,but of course like everyone i am not perfect { does it make me a angry vegan that i asked my brother if he was going to continue to eat meat and dairy then could he and his wife please watch Earthlings } he is now a proud vegetarian as is his family .I even received a text today saying thanks sis for opening my eyes .

I'm somewhere in between? It mostly depends on people around me rather than on me which one I'll be...I mean If I see someone posting stupid comment then of course I'll think ,,how dumb can you be?'' and will get all angry but If someone asks me about veganism then I'll gladly answer him even If they'll say that it's not their thing in the end.

New to this board and is actually the first and only vegetarian/vegan board that I even had considered to join. Once I started following the page from facebook and enjoying the articles, I decided to come online and check it out. This is my first post and to be honest, much of the reading has been enjoyable and beneficial, but there is a decent amount of reading that is discouraging and turns me off. Not so much about the eating choice that I have made, but about the group I have become now associated with because of those eating choice. There seems to be a lot of anger, hostility and downright lack of respect for other humans that do not share these same choices, or share eating habits in somewhat a very similar manner but may still introduce a dairy product or two.

And I do not want to generalize because many people have written some fantastic posts and have had great questions or have received awesome responses, but it seems for some instead of cultivating an environment of acceptance, understanding and seeking to educate and develop people with these eating choices, many have chosen to condemn, ridicule, spew downright hate toward meat-eaters and at minimum, this reduces credibility when you decide to offer your thoughts on veganism or vegetarianism, or at most, increases the fire for meat-eaters to lack understanding and dislike plant based eaters back with that same hatred.

Most of us grew up eating meat and if you didn't, then maybe that is due to religious reasons. But there is like less than 2% of children that will grow up in a vegetarian household (don't hold me on the exact number, that may be outdated). This means most of us here have made choices we no longer do and through education, reading, watching, talking, listening, whatever, we chose to go down a different path. Do you not think others have the same capabilities if we tried to teach instead of force and condemn? And realistically, some will just never get it and choose to view animals as less superior creatures here for our consumption, because for awhile that is what I thought. It was what I grew up believing and now I know that is entirely wrong, but it took 25 or so years.

Don't be the angry vegan or vegetarian.

The self righteousness in unappealing and turns others off. And just because you treat animals with respect and with care, why not to your fellow human? Or maybe you buy cosmetics that were treated on animals, or you drive a gas guzzler that affects the environment, or you bully people at school or work, or maybe you litter? I mean, cast the first stone....

First post and felt this was a fantastic topic to chime in on.


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